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Jihad in Sweden?
I've found this, very disturbing article from Internet considering muslim refugee's. And frankly it made me think. Of course not all muslims are like these in articles but still its very disturbing....
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An exclusive series of translations from the Swedish press, made for Jihad Watch by Ali Dashti, who writes:
Sweden is one of the worst hit countries in Europe of Muslim immigration and Political Correctness. Now, the police themselves have publicly admitted that they no longer control one of Sweden's major cities. I have made some exclusive translations from Swedish media. They show the future of Eurabia unless Europeans wake up. I’ve seen the future of Eurabia, and it’s called 'Sweden.' Malmø is Sweden’s third largest city, after Stockholm and Gothenburg. Once-peaceful Sweden, home of ABBA, IKEA and the Nobel Prize, is increasingly looking like the Middle East on a bad day. All following links to major Swedish newspapers, with a brief translation: http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyhete...529910,00.html Malmø, Sweden. The police now publicly admit what many Scandinavians have known for a long time: They no longer control the situation in the nations's third largest city. It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants. Some of the Muslims have lived in the area of Rosengård, Malmø, for twenty years, and still don't know how to read or write Swedish. Ambulance personnel are attacked by stones or weapons, and refuse to help anybody in the area without police escort. The immigrants also spit at them when they come to help. Recently, an Albanian youth was stabbed by an Arab, and was left bleeding to death on the ground while the ambulance waited for the police to arrive. The police themselves hesitate to enter parts of their own city unless they have several patrols, and need to have guards to watch their cars, otherwise they will be vandalized. "Something drastic has to be done, or much more blood will be spilled" says one of the locals. http://w1.sydsvenskan.se//Article.jsp?article=10092861 The number of people emigrating from the city of Malmø is reaching record levels. Swedes, who a couple of decades ago decided to open the doors to Muslim "refugees" and asylum seekers, are now turned into refugees in their own country and forced to flee their homes. The people abandoning the city mention crime and fear of the safety of their children as the main reason for leaving. http://w1.sydsvenskan.se/Article.jsp?article=10090830 ALL of the 600 windows at one of the schools in Malmø have been broken during the summer holiday. Window smashing alone costs the city millions every year. City buses have been forced to avoid the immigrant ghetto, as they are met with youths throwing rocks or bottles at them if they enter. Earlier this year, a boy of Afghan origin had made plans to blow up his own school. http://w1.sydsvenskan.se//Article.jsp?article=10093267 People working at the emergency ward at the major hospital in Malmø receive threats every day, and are starting to get used to it. Patients with knives or guns are commonplace. They have discussed having metal detectors at the emergency entrance, but some fear this could be seen as a provocation. http://w1.sydsvenskan.se//Article.jsp?article=10093495 Lisa Nilsson has lived in Manhatten, New York City, for 25 years. After moving back to Malmø, Sweden, she now misses the safety of New York. She never walks anywhere in Malmø after dark, but takes a taxi everywhere she goes. http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=180423 Rapes in Sweden as a whole have increased by 17% just since the beginning of 2003, and have had a dramatic increase during the past decade. Gang rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish girls, have become commonplace. Two weeks ago, 5 Kurds brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl. http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyhete...528363,00.html 22-year-old Swedish woman going out for fresh air gang raped by three strange men. The only said one word to her: "Whore!" Ali Dashti comments: "Stories like this are in Swedish newspapers every week. Swedish media usually take great care not to mention the ethnic background of the perpetrators, but you can usually read it between the lines." One more: how have Swedish politicians reacted to the chaos caused in one of their major cities because of Muslims of whom even the police seem to be afraid? By making it easier for Muslims to enter Sweden: http://www.cphpost.dk/get/81008.html Sweden's politicians view arranged marriages as a positive tradition: a cultural pattern that immigrants should be allowed to preserve even in Sweden. The Swedish government feels that interfering in arranged marriages is an encroachment upon private life. In addition, immigrant couples can apply for family reunification in Sweden even if they've never seen each other before - as long as the marriage is entered in a culture with a tradition of parents arranging marriages on behalf of their children. A 2002 study by Växjö University economics professor Jan Ekberg found that immigration cost Swedish taxpayers DKK 33 billion that year, compared to just DKK 10 billion in Denmark. And while one might assume that the rise in costs would result in knee-jerk opposition to immigration, just the opposite has happened in Sweden. A Swedish government commission has proposed abolishing the so-called “seriousness requirement.” Generalization is rhetorics of simpletons. "Sages learn from history... idiots learn from experience" -Fairy Tail manga Last edited by Lord Menchalior, 16-Oct-2004 at 15:29. |
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Just to clarify, yes, the Muslims immigrants are screwing up Sweden.
Pause there. Although this they people are Muslims, they are blacks and that's their nature and so happen to be called muslims. I have friends in sweden and he said most of the muslims are blacks, so don't mistaken them for Arabs |
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I have to admit this whole terrorism thing has made be pretty anti-muslim. I know that only the extremists are doing wrong, but if a % of the muslim population go around slaughtering westerners I think I have a right to not give two shiny shits about any of them. Not that I will go around cutting off their heads for no reason.
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(16-Oct-2004 at 17:15) |
Re: Jihad in Sweden?
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(Originally posted by Lord Menchalior)
I've found this, very disturbing article from Internet considering muslim refugee's. And frankly it made me think. Of course not all muslims are like these in articles but still its very disturbing.... Jihad Watch seems to be just another anti-muslim hate site, which isn't above lying for a "good cause". |
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(17-Oct-2004 at 03:45)  |
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many Muslim has been brain washed to join the terrorist for what is Bush did.
it's almost like saying "it's Bush's fault that we have terrorists!" terrorism isn't about Muslims bombing up places... NO! these Muslims were being brainwashed by fake doctrines by their Muslim leaders or terrorist group leaders! it's not just what Bush did that causes so many terrorists. Terrorists who use Bush as their primary reason for terrorism are nothing more than a couple of liars who can't find any other proper reasons committing these acts of terrorism! Without any proper reason, the easy way out is to point at Bush and blame him for everything. that's so naive and stupid. How come when you open a can of evaporated milk it’s still there? |
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Blaming Bush is a pefectly legit tactic. But going into why would take too much of my time and I have things to do.
I'll let you guys argue about it :P Don't take life too serious. You'll never escape it alive anyway. Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change. If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. |
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(17-Oct-2004 at 04:14)  |
Street gans and organized jihad are two different things entirely. Beating the current preachers of jihad requires a broad reaching-out to the Muslim world.
Beating street gangs just requires more cops with better weapons, and in this case maybe a concerted effort to get immigrants to integrate into mainstream society. The Swedes might want to send people to NYC to see how they've managed to make New York much safer over the years, then come home and try it themselves. R.I.P. Kirby Puckett 1960-2006, a true champion and credit to his team and community.
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(17-Oct-2004 at 06:09)  |
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(Originally posted by Paradoxia)
Just to clarify, yes, the Muslims immigrants are screwing up Sweden. Pause there. Although this they people are Muslims, they are blacks and that's their nature and so happen to be called muslims. I have friends in sweden and he said most of the muslims are blacks, so don't mistaken them for Arabs |
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(17-Oct-2004 at 07:54) |
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(Originally posted by Addictive)
I think what he is trying to say is that the muslims that are being talked about in that article are not from middle east, but the ones from africa |
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All religions have there extreme factions. In africa there are violent christian groups but this doesnt make them all bad. It is the same with musilims, im sure in sweden there are a great deal more passive muslims than there are aggressive ones.
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Re: Jihad in Sweden?
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(Originally posted by Lord Menchalior)
I've found this, very disturbing article from Internet considering muslim refugee's. And frankly it made me think. Of course not all muslims are like these in articles but still its very disturbing.... Backa backa mother..... |
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Posts: 2381/2492 (17-Oct-2004 at 13:20)  |
Jihad Watch sounds alot like an anti-Islam group, just like Human Rights Watch, and anti-human-right-violation group.
It seems that the word "watch" implies "anti" feelings. So, don't believe the article. If it was true, my Swedish friends would have told me a long time ago when we discussed terrorism and Islam. Religion is the mental disease of the masses.
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(Originally posted by Paradoxia)
Just to clarify, yes, the Muslims immigrants are screwing up Sweden. Pause there. Although this they people are Muslims, they are blacks and that's their nature and so happen to be called muslims. I have friends in sweden and he said most of the muslims are blacks, so don't mistaken them for Arabs I dont live in one of the 3 major cities in Sweden, i live in Norrköping (120.000 citizen i think). There is many immigrants and i know some of them, and all of them are very nice and friendly. I believe that cases where someone foreign have done somethin are blown up by media and getting more attention than it would if someone with swedish origin would have done the same thing. Lord Menchalior: The article you found seems to be pure propaganda, I have never been in Malmö but i've been in all other of Swedens top 10 cities. And i've never seen any areas where fire is roaming the streets and the police lost control (which is what you may think after reading this article). I'm always right! If you think otherwise, you misunderstood me, You are wrong! Last edited by rumpage, 17-Oct-2004 at 15:38. |
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Posts: 219/281 (17-Oct-2004 at 17:45)  |
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(Originally posted by Bernel)
You ought to be a bit more careful about what sites you trust. I checked the two first stories, and neither of them contained the quotes given. I aint anti muslim or anything but I must admit they often scare me as in denmark we also got alot of muslims (not regular immigrants but muslims) who beat up people, trash places and act provocating. This is also the reason that most danish discoes aint allowing muslims in anymore cuz a few is causing troubles. Think it's sad that a few idiots is ruining it for the rest of them  The last moderator to sign my siggy is a bogeyman! =P
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(18-Oct-2004 at 00:32) |
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(Originally posted by Kaer Mighty)
well it is still true. I'm from denmark and denmark and sweden have kinda a united newspaper that u receive on trains that covers both countries and several times I have read about ambulances being meet with rockthrowing and threats and yeah they do actaully refuse to enter some areas unless they have police support. And the police support wont enter with unelss they have support too. And yes it is mentioned in the articles that it is muslims they fear cuz it's them doing it. It sounds just like street violence in any other part of the world, with moral values being just one of the many differences between the immigrants and the natives . Sweden is one of the most liberal (at least in terms of what's legal) countries in the world, and it's probably an enormous culture shock. Hopefully the immigrants will eventually become assimilated and at least tolerate the beliefs of their neighbors. Still the root causes are probably along the lines of the poverty / dismal future / alienation common amongst most immigrants. R.I.P. Kirby Puckett 1960-2006, a true champion and credit to his team and community.
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Posts: 225/281 (18-Oct-2004 at 14:33) |
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(Originally posted by Sir Agaratar)
So? There are (or used to be) parts of Chicago or L.A. or NYC that cops and parameds wouldn't enter alone. It sounds just like street violence in any other part of the world, with moral values being just one of the many differences between the immigrants and the natives . Sweden is one of the most liberal (at least in terms of what's legal) countries in the world, and it's probably an enormous culture shock. Hopefully the immigrants will eventually become assimilated and at least tolerate the beliefs of their neighbors. Still the root causes are probably along the lines of the poverty / dismal future / alienation common amongst most immigrants. The last moderator to sign my siggy is a bogeyman! =P
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Posts: 222/397 (18-Oct-2004 at 17:44)  |
I think the name for the thread is misleading. Sure I've met alot of people from muslim countries that have moved to sweden for several reasons. Some of them have been or are members of gangs. Yes, they did do some breakins and get into some fights, but not more then swedish gangs did. And never ever did they say or imply that it was for islam they did it, how can it be a Jihad then? If they don't care about religion at all (I tried to discuss religion with them but they honestly said they didn't care. Maybe those I met were different?) then how can they conduct a Jihad?
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All religions have there extreme factions. In africa there are violent christian groups but this doesnt make them all bad. It is the same with musilims, im sure in sweden there are a great deal more passive muslims than there are aggressive ones.
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And yes it is mentioned in the articles that it is muslims they fear cuz it's them doing it.
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(18-Oct-2004 at 18:01) |
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(Originally posted by Gotmoor)
Then the newspapers are trying to buy in on a general anti-muslim feeling in the region. http://kornet.nu/blindhona/arkiv/000995.html These kind of stories are the new versions of the old "blood libel" of Semitic peoples. |
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