[phrdamasta]

Ok.. This is slightly specific to people who play.

Im only going to put up the top races... not Goths or anything.

No Conquerors Civs were put here.

[Lord Menchalior]

I like Byzantines due their building bonus and cataphract though Britons and their longbow men come close 2nd

[Simkin]

i havent played in a while, so i cant really remember the specifics exactly, but teutons are very powerful if played properly.

the teutonic knights are simply awesome in that the 10/2 armor absorbs nearly all physical and ~30% ranged damage. sure, theyre slow but thats not really a huge issue. send in 50 of those babies against any army and you can just sit back and enjoy. you just need to keep a small groups of cavaliers/paladins (forgot which one they get) handy to take care of any siege weapons. keep a trebuchet or two in the background bombing away towers & castles are youre set. the tower bonuses are awesome in that they provide excellent defense without having to sacrifice actual units for that.

the thing is, though, that this only applies to deathmatches where the way you get your army isnt that important. ive only played aoe 1 in enough depth to be able to discuss how to play scenarios/random maps with limited resoures. i guess the chinese tech cost and villager bonuses are pretty useful in aoe 2. especially at higher levels of difficulty the extra villagers are incredibly useful.

[Ian Out]

Byzantines are the best IMHO. Altough I always played Japanese 'cause of the Samurai

[Tobleronex]

Including expansion technologies?

With those techs, goths can train their special unit in a barrack in just a few secs, and they're like IMMUNE to arrows ^^

[kataomoi]

I think that the Vikings are the best. They have the longboat and berserkers. I've yet to lose while playing a viking society.

[Cryptical Logic]

I just bought this game! That's great. I like it so far, though I'm bummed at the scenario editor. It's not as fun as I hoped. I enjoy the Japanese, mostly because I think their culture is great, but as a game civ their only so-so. So far my fav is the Britons with their Longbowmen. Damn, tbey've got some mad range!

[phrdamasta]

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(Originally posted by Simkin)

i havent played in a while, so i cant really remember the specifics exactly, but teutons are very powerful if played properly.

the teutonic knights are simply awesome in that the 10/2 armor absorbs nearly all physical and ~30% ranged damage. sure, theyre slow but thats not really a huge issue. send in 50 of those babies against any army and you can just sit back and enjoy. you just need to keep a small groups of cavaliers/paladins (forgot which one they get) handy to take care of any siege weapons. keep a trebuchet or two in the background bombing away towers & castles are youre set. the tower bonuses are awesome in that they provide excellent defense without having to sacrifice actual units for that.

the thing is, though, that this only applies to deathmatches where the way you get your army isnt that important. ive only played aoe 1 in enough depth to be able to discuss how to play scenarios/random maps with limited resoures. i guess the chinese tech cost and villager bonuses are pretty useful in aoe 2. especially at higher levels of difficulty the extra villagers are incredibly useful.

About the DM thing. Well, a really good player can get resources easily. The great thing about teutonic Knights is, they're cheap and build fast. Also Tuetons get almost all buildings and tech (paladins). Although they get Pals i'd keep Cavs with them

[Gibbys]

I voted teutons even thoughs Goths devour pretty much anyone they face in an instant..

[Dilbert]

Teutons or Persians... I once played 2v1 and got overrun by hoardes of war elephants. I think it took like three of my teutonic knights to kill one of their elephant.

[treason keep]

I always played vikings due to their speedy calvary

[Solid Snake 87]

This is an old game but as ive said a 100 times....time nvr kills a good game.Byzantines are the best IMHO.Because of their Catapracht and monks.However other race could be as powerful.It depends on the player.

[Lightstalker]

I like the Teutons best. Their special unit (forgot the name) is the best melee infantry in the game - and they look cool.

[Simkin]

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Well, a really good player can get resources easily.

yea, thats definately true, but the trick is how fast you get them. playing at higher difficulties the comp has a substantial head start, so the ~1min saved by having three extra villagers trained can be crucial. at least in aoe 1 id kill to have that kind of a bonus on one of the races... there simply is no way you can actually win a game on hardest against 7 comps by playing normally. your only bet is to play babylonians and turtle in and slowly come out. thats kind of the strategy id use in aoe 2 with the teutons and their tower bonus, though the variety of units is much greater so there might be another way out. having those 3 villagers on chinese might let you keep pace with the comp for a bit longer, which could just be enough to get an army up and going before they start attacking. thats kind of a basic strat, but the key point is that normally theres no way you can match the speed of the comp in aoe.

[Teppic]

Who was it that had those uber cannoneers, that´s where my vote goes...

[thamkeng]

Britons easily. You get lots of those archers, give 'em some cavalry and no-one can beat ya.

[Gibbys]

Yeah you forgot the Turks.. they are very powerful... the janissaries or whatever they are are very strong with their bombards towers and some calavery to protecg from seige they own..probably could own goths too in random but deathmatc would be different..

[mshafman]

Mongols were best by far. Mass some mangudai with cavalry archers.. you're unstoppable.

[mshafman]

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(Originally posted by phrdamasta)

About the DM thing. Well, a really good player can get resources easily. The great thing about teutonic Knights is, they're cheap and build fast. Also Tuetons get almost all buildings and tech (paladins). Although they get Pals i'd keep Cavs with them

teutonic knights are ridiculously slow.. that's their downside.. they're like elephants with fewer hp

[sparky wizzie]

eh. i can't remember much of it. i only have played conquerors though, and it's been about a year, give or take some months.

teutonic knights were super beastly and fun to play with. i remember always sticking them in the rams and carting them wherever.

i voted for the chinese though. their machine bow thingy was one of the best defences if used correctly.

oh man. this makes me want to start playing those on this compy