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Fanatic39 07-Nov-2008 21:43

making new races
 
I'm not against making new races, in fact I love reading new ones. I'm just making this so people making races can see a list of advan/disadvan that could be useful, and no "they eat warhorses" stuff they saw in the Dark Elf races ages ago...

this list wasn't made by me, by Ravens Keep, in this thread http://forums.utopiatemple.com/showt...t=49103&page=3

Buildings:
-% Construction Time
-% Construction Cost
+% Building Effectiveness
Homes hold 35 people
Immune to Enemy Forts

Military:
+% Military Losses / -% Military Losses
+% Military Costs / -% Military Costs
-% Training Time / +% Training Time
-% Attack Time / + Attack Time
-% Military Maintenance / +% MM
+% Enemy Losses /
+% Combat Gains / -& CG
+% Combat Losses / -% CL

Cannot use Mercenaries
$? Elite Maintenance
Immune to Ambush Attack
Cannot Use War Horses
No Offensive Combat Losses
Spreads The Plague
Strong Massacre Attack
-1 General /
WAR: +10% Military Strength
OUT OF WAR: -10% Attack Gains

General:
+% Income / -% Income
+% Science Maximum / -% Science Maximum
+% Max Population / -% Max Population
+% Food Consumption /-%
+% Birth Rate /-%
-% Exploration Costs /+%
No Food Needed
Immune to The Plague

Magic:
+% Magic Effectiveness / -% Magic Effectiveness
+% Spell Costs /-%
+% Failure on Spells /-%
Cast Self Spells on Kingdom Members
Access to All Spells

Thievery:
+% Thievery Effectiveness / -% Thievery Effectiveness
$??? Thieves
only basic spy-related thievery operations

Special:
+10% Offense vs. Orcs

END

add things to this list so that people making new races have a base to build on

as for me: for the magic: (pros) +15% spells are reflected or absorbed, or deflected (the absorbed thing meaning bonuses come to them, like if someone casts drought and this happens : for no apparant reason a drought was instantly converted into an unexpected early springtime. more food production!! (like +5 % or something))
theivery: elites can be used as theives, 1/2 losses (again, someone elses idea)
military: + 10-15% offensive military eff or def
or, as con (military) - offen/defen military eff (10-15%)
an extremly horrible con would be: no aid. ever.


The race i made earlier, before i found that list:

Dracolisks

Related to Dragons, they have natural magic resilience and have tough troops. Their wings allow for quicker attack times and their size means they need less people to run buildings (not sure what this will be) but need more food and have less population due to their size. Their size also make them easy to catch while trying to thieve, and since they fly, they cannot use war horses.
Elite: Draconas 7/5 $1100 (around)
Def Spec: Wyvern
Off Spec: Basilisk
Pros
+15% magic ops fail (against them)
-15% attack time
+10% offensive military effectiveness
Cons
-15% thievery effectiveness
+25% more food needed
- 10% total population
No warhorses.
any advice or criticism is welcome

It's supposed to be pure attacker, can defend against mages more, very quick

(this thread https://forums.utopiatemple.com/showthread.php?t=76737 )

Fanatic39 07-Nov-2008 22:30

Re: making new races
 
heres that dark elf race by the way
https://forums.utopiatemple.com/showthread.php?t=52391

marli 07-Nov-2008 23:06

nooooooooooo why did they close what was one of THE funniest posts EVER!!!!

Fanatic39 07-Nov-2008 23:15

Re: making new races
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marli (Post 1656596)
nooooooooooo why did they close what was one of THE funniest posts EVER!!!!

yeah had me rolling lol

please post some ideas on the race pro/con list

marli 08-Nov-2008 00:35

-+ effecttivness vs dragons
-+ thief losses
-+ offensive magic effectiveness
-+ defensive magic effectness
-+ offensive thivery effectivness
-+ defensive thievery effectivness
%of buldings burned when ops are done
-+ mages losses during magic(if you fail a spell you lose more mages)
lose mages even if spells succed.
-+ thief losses during ops
% of aid alway lost.

you forgot

bonas gains/effectivness vs a certain race
bonus gains/effectivness vs certain class
-+ enemy losses when attacked

Fanatic39 08-Nov-2008 12:25

Re: making new races
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marli (Post 1656600)
-+ effecttivness vs dragons
-+ thief losses
-+ offensive magic effectiveness
-+ defensive magic effectness
-+ offensive thivery effectivness
-+ defensive thievery effectivness
%of buldings burned when ops are done
-+ mages losses during magic(if you fail a spell you lose more mages)
lose mages even if spells succed.
-+ thief losses during ops
% of aid alway lost.

you forgot

bonas gains/effectivness vs a certain race
bonus gains/effectivness vs certain class
-+ enemy losses when attacked

ok thanks, so:


Buildings:
-% Construction Time
-% Construction Cost
+% Building Effectiveness
Homes hold 35 people
Immune to Enemy Forts

Military:
+% Military Losses / -% Military Losses
+% Military Costs / -% Military Costs
-% Training Time / +% Training Time
-% Attack Time / + Attack Time
-% Military Maintenance / +% MM
+% Enemy Losses / - % Enemy Losses
+% Combat Gains / -& CG
+% Combat Losses / -% CL
+ 10-15% offensive military eff or def
-+ enemy losses when attacked

Cannot use Mercenaries
$? Elite Maintenance
Immune to Ambush Attack
Cannot Use War Horses
No Offensive Combat Losses
Spreads The Plague
Strong Massacre Attack
-1 General /
WAR: +10% Military Strength
OUT OF WAR: -10% Attack Gains

General:
+% Income / -% Income
+% Science Maximum / -% Science Maximum
+% Max Population / -% Max Population
+% Food Consumption /-%
+% Birth Rate /-%
-% Exploration Costs /+%
No Food Needed
Immune to The Plague
% of aid lost.

Magic:
+% Magic Effectiveness / -% Magic Effectiveness
+% Spell Costs /-%
+% Failure on Spells /-%
Cast Self Spells on Kingdom Members
Access to All Spells
-+ offensive magic eff
-+ defensive magic eff
-+ mages losses during magic(if you fail a spell you lose more mages)
lose mages even if spells succeed.


Thievery:
+% Thievery Effectiveness / -% Thievery Effectiveness
$??? Thieves
only basic spy-related thievery operations
-+ thief losses
-+ offensive thivery eff
-+ defensive thievery eff
elites can be used as theives, 1/2 losses

Dragons:-+ eff vs dragons
-+ losses from dragons
immune to dragons


Special:
+10% Offense vs. Orcs
bonus gains/eff vs a certain race
bonus gains/eff vs certain class
- gains/eff vs certain race/class



remember keep adding to it please!

Fanatic39 23-Apr-2009 21:05

Re: making new races
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanatic39 (Post 1656650)
ok thanks, so:


Buildings:
-% Construction Time
-% Construction Cost
+% Building Effectiveness
Homes hold 35 people
Immune to Enemy Forts

Military:
+% Military Losses / -% Military Losses
+% Military Costs / -% Military Costs
-% Training Time / +% Training Time
-% Attack Time / + Attack Time
-% Military Maintenance / +% MM
+% Enemy Losses / - % Enemy Losses
+% Combat Gains / -& CG
+% Combat Losses / -% CL
+ 10-15% offensive military eff or def
-+ enemy losses when attacked

Cannot use Mercenaries
$? Elite Maintenance
Immune to Ambush Attack
Cannot Use War Horses
No Offensive Combat Losses
Spreads The Plague
Strong Massacre Attack
-1 General /
WAR: +10% Military Strength
OUT OF WAR: -10% Attack Gains

General:
+% Income / -% Income
+% Science Maximum / -% Science Maximum
+% Max Population / -% Max Population
+% Food Consumption /-%
+% Birth Rate /-%
-% Exploration Costs /+%
No Food Needed
Immune to The Plague
% of aid lost.

Magic:
+% Magic Effectiveness / -% Magic Effectiveness
+% Spell Costs /-%
+% Failure on Spells /-%
Cast Self Spells on Kingdom Members
Access to All Spells
-+ offensive magic eff
-+ defensive magic eff
-+ mages losses during magic(if you fail a spell you lose more mages)
lose mages even if spells succeed.


Thievery:
+% Thievery Effectiveness / -% Thievery Effectiveness
$??? Thieves
only basic spy-related thievery operations
-+ thief losses
-+ offensive thivery eff
-+ defensive thievery eff
elites can be used as theives, 1/2 losses

Dragons:-+ eff vs dragons
-+ losses from dragons
immune to dragons


Special:
+10% Offense vs. Orcs
bonus gains/eff vs a certain race
bonus gains/eff vs certain class
- gains/eff vs certain race/class



remember keep adding to it please!


Buildings:
-%/+% Construction Time
-%/+% Construction Cost
+%/-% Building Effectiveness
Homes hold 35 people (etc etc)
Immune to Enemy Forts (other buildings, cannot build, they are more eff.. )(etc etc)

Military:
+% Military Losses / -% Military Losses
+% Military Costs / -% Military Costs
-% Training Time / +% Training Time
-% Attack Time / + Attack Time
-% Military Maintenance / +% MM
+% Enemy Losses / - % Enemy Losses
+% Combat Gains / -& CG
+% Combat Losses / -% CL
+ 10-15% offensive military eff or def (etc etc)
-+ enemy losses when attacked/attacking

Cannot use Mercenaries / mervenaries free/ cheaper/ more expensive
$? Elite Maintenance
Immune to Ambush Attack
Cannot Use War Horses
No Offensive Combat Losses (etc etc) (losses, -% +%)
Strong Massacre Attack (etc etc)
-1 General / (etc etc)
WAR: +10% Military Strength (etc etc)
OUT OF WAR: -10% Attack Gains (etc etc)

General:
+% Income / -% Income
+% Science Maximum / -% Science Maximum
-%/+% Sci learning rate
+% Max Population / -% Max Population
+% Food Consumption /-%
+% Birth Rate /-%
-% Exploration Costs /+%
No Food Needed / food penalty/advantage (such as not needing as much food, or needing more that normal)
Immune to The Plague (spreads)
% of aid lost/gained.

Magic:
+% Magic Effectiveness / -% Magic Effectiveness
+% Spell Costs /-%
+% Failure on Spells /-%
Cast Self Spells on Kingdom Members
Access to All Spells
-+ offensive magic eff
-+ defensive magic eff
-+ mages losses during magic(if you fail a spell you lose more mages)
lose mages even if spells succeed.


Thievery:
+% Thievery Effectiveness / -% Thievery Effectiveness
$??? Thieves
only basic spy-related thievery operations
-+ thief losses
-+ offensive thivery eff
-+ defensive thievery eff
elites can be used as theives, 1/2 losses (diffrent losses etc)

Dragons:-+ eff vs dragons
-+ losses from dragons
immune to dragons


Special:
+10% Offense vs. Orcs
bonus gains/eff vs a certain race
bonus gains/eff vs certain class
- gains/eff vs certain race/class


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