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Lord Anubis 08-Jan-2004 03:55

Chrisitanity is full of hypocritical statments and lies!
 
FIRST OFF LET ME SAY I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CHRISTIANS, AS ALL OF MY FRIENDS ARE CHRISTIANS.

The bible states (in the 10 commandments) that "Thall shalt not kill". And yet look at the crusades. Look at the Salem Witch Trials (If I am not mistakes, which I know im not as I have studied the trials. The accusers AND judeges AND hangers, etc. were all christians.)

Again, using the "Thou shalt not kill" example. (1) Jesus was born a Jew, correct? And was it not the chrisitians (and muslims working together) that drove off the Jews? Was it not the christians that killed so many jews?

The bible is so-called written by god himself...what did he do? pick up a pencil and a few peices of paper thinking "Lets write a book today". No. The Bible states that Jesus heard the voice of god. The bible states Moses heard the voice of god. But who was around to verify this? They were always out in the middle of nowhere, with no one else around. How do the writter of the bible know this happened? How do they no Jesus didnt pick up a joint on his way home from picking berries, and got a little high? ( :lol ) We dont know this. And what is your proof behind Adam and Eve? I have more proof I can fly than what's behind that.

Lord Anubis 08-Jan-2004 04:08

And one last thing! Christianity is supposed to believe in the equality of all religions? How can that be when it was Chrisitanity who took the Wicca god and made him their devil (this is why Wicca's dont believe in the devil. They had no knowledge of it, it was created)

Christianity makes up a shit and steals stuff from other religions to make it look like the supreme and best religion. Its Bullshit if you ask me.

AgainI HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CHRISTIANS AS MANY OF THEM ARE MY FRIENDS.

C A N T A R E 08-Jan-2004 04:22

Just as christmas wasn't really a holiday, until they took it upon themselves to try and rival the Pagan holidays :)

MAPS 08-Jan-2004 04:58

It's kind of hard to believe you have nothing against christians when you dump all over their religions like that...


Quote:

(Originally posted by Lord Anubis)
Its Bullshit if you ask me.
And noone asked you.

Phased 08-Jan-2004 05:38

Quote:

(Originally posted by C A N T A R E)

Just as christmas wasn't really a holiday, until they took it upon themselves to try and rival the Pagan holidays :)
I thought they took it from Santa. Isn't that what it is about? Presents and commercialization of society?

And MAPS- I don't think he has anything against Christians. Just their religion I guess ;)

Apeiron 08-Jan-2004 08:51

Ey, at least we don't have as much against Christians as Christians do against Muslims or homosexuals.

Lord Anubis; Christianity does not believe in equality of any sort. In the bible it is clearly stated that people worshipping other Gods or people trying to get family/friends to start worshipping other Gods should be executed.

PatrioticSpirit 08-Jan-2004 13:27

Lord Anubis:
Yep your right. The Bible teaches one thing and the people pratice another!
Its been going on forever.

muirgein 08-Jan-2004 14:31

Not to mention the fact that if the whole human race were started by Adam and Eve we would all be sinning with our relatives. :rolleyes:

The bible is a fairy tale...

Aesops fables may have morals that people should live by, but they are still just stories.

PatrioticSpirit 08-Jan-2004 15:03

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(Originally posted by muirgein)

Not to mention the fact that if the whole human race were started by Adam and Eve we would all be sinning with our relatives. :rolleyes:

The bible is a fairy tale...

Aesops fables may have morals that people should live by, but they are still just stories.
The Theory of evolution suggests we are all related!

Yes; A fairy tale which billions of people pattern their lives after; A fairy tale that has changed countless lives for the better: A fairy tale that has caused more good to be done in this world than you can imagine!

gadenher 08-Jan-2004 15:10

don't judge christianity because of the christians, we christians do lot's of things wrong, a lot of times we don't act like we're supposed to as christians, but becoming perfect isn't possible either: we're humans

Aletheia 08-Jan-2004 15:27

Quote:

Chrisitanity is full of hypocritical statments and lies! ...FIRST OFF LET ME SAY I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CHRISTIANS, AS ALL OF MY FRIENDS ARE CHRISTIANS.
...yes i can see that. you're referring to literalists.

Wasted of M 08-Jan-2004 15:41

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(Originally posted by gadenher)

don't judge christianity because of the christians, we christians do lot's of things wrong, a lot of times we don't act like we're supposed to as christians, but becoming perfect isn't possible either: we're humans
Agreed

You cant blame the book if the readers cant follow instructions.

And ofcourse lots/all of the bible is just make believe. But many myths in there have large sense-moral meanings. You might ofcourse ask yourself why God would use things that have not happend to show us how to live, but maby he thought that there were no -Real- Stories good enough for his book ? ^^

Apeiron 08-Jan-2004 17:12

All can be blamed.

The book - says to kill people because they worship other Gods, because they're gay, because the work on sabbath, because they're not a virgin on their wedding night.

The God, Jahweh - is an ass because he made the rules above, killed many people including old folks, women and babies. Of course this is based on the book, so if the book is wrong then is this the real Christian God?

The Christians - crusades, witch burnings, persecution of Jews, persecution of homosexuals...but they all claimed this was based on the book.

muirgein 08-Jan-2004 19:47

Quote:

(Originally posted by PatrioticSpirit)

The Theory of evolution suggests we are all related!

Yes; A fairy tale which billions of people pattern their lives after; A fairy tale that has changed countless lives for the better: A fairy tale that has caused more good to be done in this world than you can imagine!
And done a hell of alot of bad as well...
You love to pick and choose when you see all the good in something.

MAPS 08-Jan-2004 23:30

Quote:

(Originally posted by Black Fighter)

The book - says to kill people because they worship other Gods, because they're gay, because the work on sabbath, because they're not a virgin on their wedding night.
God made us and owns us. He may do as he wishes with us. If he wants to kill us all in the most horrible way imaginable, it's not wrong because we are his creation and he will do what he wants with us. Luckily he has mercy on us. If he didn't we would all die the first time we ever did anything wrong. But it is better for God to kill the wicked physically, then for him to allow the whole of the human race to die spiritually because of sin. Who are you to judge the mind of God? You are no better than the rest of us. Not all things in the bible are to be taken literally though. When you don't interpret the bible correctly, it can lead to a lot of bad things. (The aforementioned Salem witch trials)But people are not perfect. Don't blame God for the downfalls of man.

As for this thread, I am really angry that people have to crap on other religions to try to make their own beliefs sound better. If Christianity is truely everything you have said it is, so what? It's what people believe and you are not helping matters by making every christian feel like crap for believing in it. We are all different, we all make mistakes. If people can't deal with that without insulting another persons beliefs, then this is truely a sad, sad world.

dothackRAVE 09-Jan-2004 01:22

Quote:

(Originally posted by MAPS)

God made us and owns us. He may do as he wishes with us. If he wants to kill us all in the most horrible way imaginable, it's not wrong because we are his creation and he will do what he wants with us. Luckily he has mercy on us. If he didn't we would all die the first time we ever did anything wrong. But it is better for God to kill the wicked physically, then for him to allow the whole of the human race to die spiritually because of sin. Who are you to judge the mind of God? You are no better than the rest of us. Not all things in the bible are to be taken literally though. When you don't interpret the bible correctly, it can lead to a lot of bad things. (The aforementioned Salem witch trials)But people are not perfect. Don't blame God for the downfalls of man.

As for this thread, I am really angry that people have to crap on other religions to try to make their own beliefs sound better. If Christianity is truely everything you have said it is, so what? It's what people believe and you are not helping matters by making every christian feel like crap for believing in it. We are all different, we all make mistakes. If people can't deal with that without insulting another persons beliefs, then this is truely a sad, sad world.
What's sad is that God claims He gave us Free Will, but yet we cannot do what we want? But yet he'll kill us if we do something he doesn't like???

I wonder what the hell happened to free will. We are not slaves of God, he gave us free will. We have the choice to do anything and everything we like, so why is he killing us???

If this thread makes you angry, then I guess every other thread will too. The point here is debate, we argue with evidence, not just plain insults backed by nothing.

PatrioticSpirit 09-Jan-2004 02:24

Quote:

(Originally posted by muirgein)

And done a hell of alot of bad as well...
You love to pick and choose when you see all the good in something.
I see both sides of the coin I just prefer to emphasize the good!
Unlike many on these boards who see only the bad!

PatrioticSpirit 09-Jan-2004 02:28

Quote:

(Originally posted by Black Fighter)

All can be blamed.

The book - says to kill people because they worship other Gods, because they're gay, because the work on sabbath, because they're not a virgin on their wedding night.

The God, Jahweh - is an ass because he made the rules above, killed many people including old folks, women and babies. Of course this is based on the book, so if the book is wrong then is this the real Christian God?

The Christians - crusades, witch burnings, persecution of Jews, persecution of homosexuals...but they all claimed this was based on the book.
What does Jesus say in this book? Do you know?

Lord Anubis 09-Jan-2004 03:42

Quote:

(Originally posted by MAPS)

God made us and owns us. He may do as he wishes with us. If he wants to kill us all in the most horrible way imaginable, it's not wrong because we are his creation and he will do what he wants with us. Luckily he has mercy on us. If he didn't we would all die the first time we ever did anything wrong. But it is better for God to kill the wicked physically, then for him to allow the whole of the human race to die spiritually because of sin. Who are you to judge the mind of God? You are no better than the rest of us. Not all things in the bible are to be taken literally though. When you don't interpret the bible correctly, it can lead to a lot of bad things. (The aforementioned Salem witch trials)But people are not perfect. Don't blame God for the downfalls of man.

As for this thread, I am really angry that people have to crap on other religions to try to make their own beliefs sound better.
That is exactly what christiantiy has done!

And to those say "If you have nothing against christians, why are you bashin them?"

I dont have anything against the chrisitans themselves, I am revealing about the bible. It is a big fairy tale. yes, its supposed to teach you about life's lessons, but there are things in it that dont have anything to do with life's lessons. men walking on water? the voice of god?

Lord Anubis 09-Jan-2004 04:02

And one more thing...no killing right?

Then what is the purpose of these "vegence Angels" or whatever that killed people cuz they sinned


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