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Libra SPYdrZ 12-Feb-2012 23:18

A Slight at Jesus in the Quran
In the Quran Jesus is referred to as Isa Ibn Mariam or Jesus son of Mary, thats a huge step down from the son of God as Christians were calling him. Some believe the Quran was inspired by Allah therefore they are his words, which makes one think what happened in the 600 years since Jesus was born and the Quran came about, maybe Jesus went out of favor or did something wrong. No other Prophet is reffered to as Son of his father or mother, why just Jesus.

Also, in the Imam Al Mahdi prophecy it says him and Jesus will return and Al Mahdi will ask Jesus to lead the prayer and Jesus will decline telling Al Mahdi he should lead it. Just think about this, its like youre at a door and you tell a person go ahead and he's like no you go ahead etc.. The whole point is Jesus is being belittled and i wonder why. Plus why is there such a high regard for Jesus in Christianity and in Islam he is just another prophet.

Greeney 13-Feb-2012 04:02

I have a hard time taking this seriously, but you do realize that Muslims don't consider Jesus to be the son of God? He is actually "just another prophet" to Muslim's as far as I know, if Muslims believed he was the son of God, they would probably just be Christians. As to your whole belittling idea; you only see what you want to see.

Gotterdammerung 13-Feb-2012 05:33

Re: A Slight at Jesus in the Quran
One ought to be suspicious of a man who would compare himself to Jesus.

Gotterdammerung 13-Feb-2012 05:45

Re: A Slight at Jesus in the Quran

Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung (Post 1699618)
One ought to be suspicious of a man who would compare himself to Jesus.

Brain fart.

That makes no sense, sorry.

Gotterdammerung 13-Feb-2012 06:03

The Qur'an states Jesus the Son of Mary (Arabic: Isa ibn Maryum) is the Messiah or "Prophet" sent to the Jews [Quran 3:45].

It's fairly solid arrangment that I find hard to disspute.

Especially considering that the doctrine of the Trinity was not enforced for some 300 years AD, it's easy to imagine that 300 years more it could be reasoned as incorrect. But the church wouldn't go back on its teachings even if it knew it was wrong, because it had made the dogma of the Trinity official and it must save face. All authority would be lost. I'm scared.


Gotterdammerung 13-Feb-2012 06:13

The following quote is from Vatican II:


The Church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one, living and subsistent, merciful and almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to men. They strive to submit themselves without reserve to the hidden decrees of God, just as Abraham submitted himself to God's plan, to whose faith Muslims eagerly link their own.

Although not acknowledging him as God, they venerate Jesus as a prophet, his virgin Mother they also honor, and even at times devoutly evoke. Further, they await the day of judgment and the reward of God following the resurrection of the dead. For this reason they highly esteem an upright life and worship God, especially by way of prayer, alms-deeds and fasting (Nostra Aetate, Vatican II).

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