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Forum: Respectable General Discussions 16-Sep-2012, 14:48
Replies: 7
Views: 7,172
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Because it is probably true. People are either...

Because it is probably true. People are either self-sufficient, or they need commerce.

It is nice to imagine that labour could be refocussed on housing, healthcare, etc but why should I build your...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 16-Sep-2012, 14:37
Replies: 8
Views: 5,820
Posted By Voice of Reason
It depends what you mean by 'have a place...

It depends what you mean by 'have a place in'.

Given that if religion exists, it is part of the culture that defines the values of the people that do the politicking, it is almost impossible to keep...
Forum: Religious Discussions 04-Aug-2012, 15:23
Replies: 23
Views: 3,051
Posted By Voice of Reason
"If we can't see it, it doesn't exist"....

"If we can't see it, it doesn't exist". Not the most logical of arguments.




The Big Bang doesn't break any laws of nature. It is required by the laws of nature. It is observing nature that says...
Forum: Religious Discussions 03-Aug-2012, 10:38
Replies: 23
Views: 3,051
Posted By Voice of Reason
"When someone refers to dark matter, they...

"When someone refers to dark matter, they absolutely realize they are talking about matter and not a force. He wasn't confused about anything"

If that is true, then someone who says "If such...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 01-Aug-2012, 14:13
Replies: 16
Views: 6,135
Posted By Voice of Reason
I thought Caliban's speech was a good choice, as...

I thought Caliban's speech was a good choice, as Caliban was describing how pleasant he found his island.

Or maybe i just like the word 'twangling'...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 01-Aug-2012, 14:02
Replies: 12
Views: 6,004
Posted By Voice of Reason
Time is an integral part of the universe (AKA...

Time is an integral part of the universe (AKA space-time) as it couldn't exist without it. Without time to exist in, there would be no existence.

Time has been around since... the beginning of time,...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 30-Jul-2012, 13:47
Replies: 16
Views: 6,135
Posted By Voice of Reason
Brilliant. Weirdly brilliant. Far more creative...

Brilliant. Weirdly brilliant. Far more creative than I expected. An army of Mary Poppins's beating up Lord Voldemort? How weird can it get?




I heard that too, and I also liked the bit where Boris...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 30-Jul-2012, 13:02
Replies: 12
Views: 6,004
Posted By Voice of Reason
First, causes exist only in hindsight. If there...

First, causes exist only in hindsight. If there is no effect, there cannot be a cause, so the effect has to occur before it can be attributed a cause - in hindsight. The apple has to fall (first...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 30-Jul-2012, 12:45
Replies: 27
Views: 8,296
Posted By Voice of Reason
There is a noisy lunatic fringe, not a sizeable...

There is a noisy lunatic fringe, not a sizeable chunk of people. Realistically the debate really is over, as the lunatic fringe require the laws of physics to have changed, so that CO2 is no longer a...
Forum: Religious Discussions 22-Jul-2012, 09:03
Replies: 28
Views: 4,526
Posted By Voice of Reason
I see no difference. If the creator is not...

I see no difference. If the creator is not defined by causality, I see no reason why the Big Bang has to be. Either everything has a cause, and you are into infinite regression, or it doesn't, and...
Forum: Religious Discussions 22-Jul-2012, 08:47
Replies: 28
Views: 4,526
Posted By Voice of Reason
Just to make this clear, your argument is: * The...

Just to make this clear, your argument is:

* The Big bang is illogical because it 'just happened', but everything has to have a cause.

* That means that there must have been a creator to cause the...
Forum: Religious Discussions 21-Jul-2012, 15:20
Replies: 28
Views: 4,526
Posted By Voice of Reason
1) Closed system is meaningless. There is no...

1) Closed system is meaningless. There is no 'outside'. The universe is not expanding into everything, and the 'expansion' is purely internal.

2) Since when does any explosion go into reverse and...
Forum: Religious Discussions 21-Jul-2012, 14:42
Replies: 23
Views: 3,051
Posted By Voice of Reason
By its effects on something else. Who says...

By its effects on something else.

Who says miracles have to be unobservable? That sounds like a self-serving redefinition. I am asking you show any miracle, observable or not, and you are not...
Forum: Religious Discussions 21-Jul-2012, 08:57
Replies: 23
Views: 3,051
Posted By Voice of Reason
First, you still haven't proved that miracles...

First, you still haven't proved that miracles exist, and until you do that speculation is pointless.

Second, there is nothing miraculous about dark matter. It is just difficult to observe directly,...
Forum: Religious Discussions 21-Jul-2012, 08:49
Replies: 28
Views: 4,526
Posted By Voice of Reason
Re: The Great Failure of Atheism

I have already said why, and so has Nimon.

The creator would have to precede creation = logically impossible.

There is also the huge logical hole infinite regression. All you are doing is replacing...
Forum: Religious Discussions 20-Jul-2012, 14:11
Replies: 28
Views: 4,526
Posted By Voice of Reason
Re: The Great Failure of Atheism

Only if your knowledge of cosmology stopped 600 years ago.

Modern cosmology, as in less than 600 years ago, makes any kind of god completely illogical for the simple reason that any...
Forum: Religious Discussions 19-Jul-2012, 11:56
Replies: 23
Views: 3,051
Posted By Voice of Reason
If it can predict things, then it can't be wrong....

If it can predict things, then it can't be wrong. :D




Dark matter has never been detected, so it is 100% a prediction by science.
Forum: Religious Discussions 18-Jul-2012, 10:53
Replies: 23
Views: 3,051
Posted By Voice of Reason
The theory of gravity is not wrong. Far from it....

The theory of gravity is not wrong. Far from it. It is so spectacularly right that the gravitational effects on a space vehicle in free-fall can be predicted accurately for years in advance. The...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 03-Jun-2012, 13:58
Replies: 10
Views: 6,658
Posted By Voice of Reason
It is also true in many ways. Animal alarm calls...

It is also true in many ways. Animal alarm calls are another example. The zebra that yells "lion!!" attracts the attention of the lion, thus putting itself at greater risk.

This shines an...
Forum: Religious Discussions 02-Jun-2012, 10:07
Replies: 21
Views: 3,114
Posted By Voice of Reason
You clearly can't distinguish between cause and...

You clearly can't distinguish between cause and effect, or between the spiritual and the physical, so you are incapable of understanding what Buddhism is about which in turn means there is no point...
Forum: Religious Discussions 01-Jun-2012, 13:45
Replies: 21
Views: 3,114
Posted By Voice of Reason
Not really. The physical aspect (dukkha-dukkha)...

Not really.

The physical aspect (dukkha-dukkha) is ageing/dying, childbirth, or illness. Dukkha (viparinama dukkha) itself is as I described, something akin to spiritual disturbance, or anxiety. ...
Forum: Religious Discussions 31-May-2012, 12:54
Replies: 21
Views: 3,114
Posted By Voice of Reason
Re: The Problem of Suffering

Wrong kind of suffering.

The suffering cured by Buddhism has nothing to do with pain, or unpleasantness, or disease, or famine, or indeed anything external or physical.

It is all laid out in The...
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 31-May-2012, 12:31
Replies: 13
Views: 7,690
Posted By Voice of Reason
Re: Predicting Obama's second term

The corporations who throw money at the Republican party seem to think votes make a difference.




Republicanism is close to being a religion, and its adherents will adhere no matter what, even if...
Forum: Religious Discussions 07-Apr-2012, 14:32
Replies: 9
Views: 2,795
Posted By Voice of Reason
Me too - I would love to see some actual...

Me too - I would love to see some actual evidence. Bring it on! :D
Forum: Respectable General Discussions 07-Apr-2012, 14:16
Replies: 13
Views: 7,690
Posted By Voice of Reason
I am reasonably familiar with Australia, and as I...

I am reasonably familiar with Australia, and as I have a Chinese wife I have seen bogan racism at first hand, in the form of eggs being thrown or plain, old fashioned "fuck off" from passing cars....
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