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(26-Jun-2007 at 03:10)


question Age 36 Practical Values

The "Practical values" in Utopia Angel represent the percentage of Elites that a race sends on attacks on average, based solely on the race's units strength. For example, an Orc having the units strength of 5/5/8/2 (offspec, defspec, elite off, elite def) will most likely send 100% of his Elites when attacking.

Please post here your proposed Practical values that should be used in Angel for Age 36 in your opinion. You may provide explanation for your suggestions.

Please note that this is not the place to argue against the Practical values as a concept. People who do not see a benefit in them can easily disable them in Angel's settings menu.

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(26-Jun-2007 at 03:45)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

ORCS(8/2)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

HUMANS(6/4)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

GNOMES(5/5) ALL ELITE ARMY
Practical OFFENSE (60% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (40% elites)

ELVES(6/5)
Practical OFFENSE (75% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (25% elites)

DARK ELVES(4/6)
Practical OFFENSE (0% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (100% elites)

DWARFS(6/6)
Practical OFFENSE (50% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (50% elites)
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(26-Jun-2007 at 04:18)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

Originally Posted by bonex: View Post
ORCS(8/2)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

HUMANS(6/4)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

GNOMES(5/5) ALL ELITE ARMY
Practical OFFENSE (60% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (40% elites)

ELVES(6/5)
Practical OFFENSE (75% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (25% elites)

DARK ELVES(4/6)
Practical OFFENSE (0% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (100% elites)

DWARFS(6/6)
Practical OFFENSE (50% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (50% elites)
Agree with most of it, but think that Gnome should be 50/50. Also Elves should probably be 90/10 off/def.
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(26-Jun-2007 at 05:54)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

Originally Posted by bonex: View Post
ORCS(8/2)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

HUMANS(6/4)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

GNOMES(5/5) ALL ELITE ARMY
Practical OFFENSE (60% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (40% elites)

ELVES(6/5)
Practical OFFENSE (75% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (25% elites)

DARK ELVES(4/6)
Practical OFFENSE (0% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (100% elites)

DWARFS(6/6)
Practical OFFENSE (50% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (50% elites)
agree with humans, DE, orc & elf

if gnome is running all elite i think it'll be closer to 50-50

dorf i think itll be closer to 60-40 cause anyone that runs all elite dwarf is asking for trouble

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(26-Jun-2007 at 03:54)


I agree except, I think gnomes would be 50/50 as well. If you have lots of TG's which you should if you're going to be attacking then you can send 50% but the off points will be higher than the def points you leave at home giving you more defense at home. Do yo see where I'm coming from?

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(26-Jun-2007 at 04:16)
Gnomes should be 40/60...in my case...
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(26-Jun-2007 at 04:26)
I agree. Gnome should be at least 50/50, if not 40/60. Other than that, it makes sense.

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(26-Jun-2007 at 04:37)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

hehehe... was just so used to suiciding freaks... i guess 50/50 will do for gnomes...
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(26-Jun-2007 at 04:37)


I'm playing gnome and i was planning on all elites...why are some saying not?
Its cheaper and has same value.

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(26-Jun-2007 at 04:47)
what we're saying is you would keep 50% of your leets at home, if you had an all-leet army.
Of course, anyone playing gnome would be pretty strange to train anything other than leets.

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(26-Jun-2007 at 11:25)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

Originally Posted by spacecricketkh: View Post
what we're saying is you would keep 50% of your leets at home, if you had an all-leet army.
Of course, anyone playing gnome would be pretty strange to train anything other than leets.

Well, durring wars gnomes could train specs with the credits instead of investing cash in leets.
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(27-Jun-2007 at 20:55)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

Originally Posted by spacecricketkh: View Post
what we're saying is you would keep 50% of your leets at home, if you had an all-leet army.
Of course, anyone playing gnome would be pretty strange to train anything other than leets.
Well, if you have an all elite army your NW is going to be through the roof, and you'll get creamed by those in your NW. It may make sense to build at least a few defensive specs in some cases, although I doubt any reasonable amount of them would have a large effect on your army.
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(28-Jun-2007 at 01:00)
For a gnome, it's plain and simple... why should train specs for 350 gcs when you can afford leets at 300 gcs... Therefore, it's more logical to run 100% leets and save those spec credits for slaying puffy...

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(28-Jun-2007 at 01:21)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

Originally Posted by reinstall: View Post
For a gnome, it's plain and simple... why should train specs for 350 gcs when you can afford leets at 300 gcs... Therefore, it's more logical to run 100% leets and save those spec credits for slaying puffy...

Intiende?
Of course I get that. Stop being fasciscious.

It wouldn't be stupid to build a few normal specialists in order to keep your networth down, though.
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(26-Jun-2007 at 05:17)
I always keep bottomfeeding def... 40/60 is fine for me...
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(26-Jun-2007 at 06:00)
gnome should be 50%/50% or maybe 60%/40%


gnomes will be using the spec credits they earn for mainly def specs i would assume. so they will be free to send more elites out.
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(26-Jun-2007 at 06:16)
Agree with all in their original posting state.

@ Rockit - In a war-heavy or even semi-heavy KD... a Gnome will be best suited to keep those credits in pocket until absolutely needed... to help offset the lack of Hospitals. It is a non-NW bonus that can really make a difference in a longterm setting.
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(26-Jun-2007 at 06:26)
Re: Age 36 Practical Values

Originally Posted by smbka1: View Post
Agree with all in their original posting state.

@ Rockit - In a war-heavy or even semi-heavy KD... a Gnome will be best suited to keep those credits in pocket until absolutely needed... to help offset the lack of Hospitals. It is a non-NW bonus that can really make a difference in a longterm setting.
good point.
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(26-Jun-2007 at 06:30)
Should i train half-giants with money and then with my free creds should i train Def? That way it may help but i do not know
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(26-Jun-2007 at 06:39)
ORCS(8/2)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

HUMANS(6/4)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

ELVES(6/5)
Practical OFFENSE (100% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (0% elites)

DARK ELVES(4/6)
Practical OFFENSE (0% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (100% elites)

GNOMES(5/5) ALL ELITE ARMY
Practical OFFENSE (50% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (50% elites)

DWARFS(6/6)
Practical OFFENSE (50% elites)
Practical DEFENSE (50% elites)

Bascially with orc 8/2, human 6/4 and elf 6/5 they should all be used just for offence, now you could argue with elf that they may want some elites purely for def, but its simply more effective to get def specs. unless your running a semi suicide strat :P

Dark elf has 4/6 elites like the old faery, so it should be just used for def since its most efficient.

for gnomes and dwarf since they have an elite that is just as effective on the offence and defence, its safe to say it should be used in a 50/50 split.

thanks

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