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(30-Apr-2008 at 00:32)


lightbulb [WoL #39] Networth Values

Please use this thread to research the Networth values for the Age of the Scholar. The following are the values used in Angel for round #38.

Peasant: 1
Soldier: 1.5
OffSpec: 4
DefSpec: 5
Wizard: 4
Thief: 4
Money: 1/1000
Science: 1/100 (was: 1/105)
Acre: 15
Building: 40
Horse: 0.6
Human DefSpec: 6
DarkElf OffSpec: 4.8

Human Elite: 5.5
Elf Elite: 5.75
Dward Elite: 7
Orc Elite: 6.75
Gnome Elite: 5.25
DarkElf Elite: 6.5

Brother Green, Utopia Angel creator.
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(11-May-2008 at 18:55)
Peasant: 1x 15115
Soldier: 1.5 x 245
OffSpec: 4 x 3353
Human DefSpec: 6 x 5280
Wizard: 4 x 484
Thief: 4 x 1322
Money: 1/1000 x 175
Science: 1/100 (was: 1/105) x 61417
Acre: 15 x 1057
Building: 40 x 1057
Horse: 0.6 x 4320
Human Elite: 5.5 x 1105

= 135 217 NW (calculated) vs. 128884 NW (actuall)
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(04-Jun-2008 at 20:14)
The values ive got is:

Acre - 15
Building - 405/10=40,5 (?)
Building under construction - 253/18=14,05 (?);140/10=14
Peasant - Assuming 1
Soldier - 150/100=1,5
Def-spec - 500/100=5
Off-spec - 400/100=4
Elf Elite - 575/100=5,75
Thief - 400/100=4
Wizard - 400/100=4
Gold - 100/100000=0,001
Runes - 0

But something somewhere has to be different from alst age. The calculated NW isnt correct.
Anyone found something that has been changed?

Last edited by Bipoe, 04-Jun-2008 at 20:21.
Edit reason: things missing
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(09-Jun-2008 at 11:56)
Re: [WoL #39] Networth Values

Originally Posted by Bipoe: View Post
The values ive got is:

Acre - 15
Building - 405/10=40,5 (?)
Building under construction - 253/18=14,05 (?);140/10=14
Peasant - Assuming 1
Soldier - 150/100=1,5
Def-spec - 500/100=5
Off-spec - 400/100=4
Elf Elite - 575/100=5,75
Thief - 400/100=4
Wizard - 400/100=4
Gold - 100/100000=0,001
Runes - 0

But something somewhere has to be different from alst age. The calculated NW isnt correct.
Anyone found something that has been changed?
is a building under construction really worth less than a finished building? I never read it was tbh, and if indeed not so, that could account for the incorrectness of your figures
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(09-Jun-2008 at 14:00)


Quote:
is a building under construction really worth less than a finished building? I never read it was tbh, and if indeed not so, that could account for the incorrectness of your figures
well, i just converted my strat, and my networth dropped by like 10%... and i didnt do anything else that would reduce my networth, so i see no reason to think it isnt accurate

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(09-Jun-2008 at 15:06)
"* Side note: Networth of buildings under construction would drop by about 50% "
-Mehul

So i think 14 is at least pretty close to the accurate number.
And i have to apologise, i just found a error in my calculations. It added the nw for all military as usually first, and then a second time but as soldiers.
So i think most values are pretty correct now, at least for Elf.

An updated list of NW-values (for elf):
Acre - 15
Building - 405/10=40,5(?); 2921/72=40,57(?)
Building under construction - 253/18=14,05; 140/10=14; 70/5=14; 1010/72=14,03
Peasant - Assuming 1
Soldier - 150/100=1,5
Soldier in training - 0/527=0
Def-spec (0/5)- 500/100=5
Off-spec (5/0)- 400/100=4
Elf Elite - 575/100=5,75
Horse - 34/213=0,16; 53/88=0,6
Thief - 400/100=4
Wizard - 400/100=4
Gold - 100/100000=0,001
Runes - 0
Science - 11,478/986=0,0116=1/86(?)
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(23-Jul-2008 at 21:46)
i was wrong

sorry BG its Bijo i was wrong

nw values:
----------
Peasants = 1
Soldiers = 1.5
Money = 0.001
Thieves = Wizards = 4
War Horses = 0.6
Land (full) = 55
Unbuilt Land = 40
sci = sci/100

Defspec NW Values » Defspecs(/5) 5NW :: Human Defspecs(/6) 6NW
Offspec NW Values » Offspecs(5/) 4NW :: DE Offspecs(6/) 4.8NW
Elite NW Values » Dw(6/6) 7NW :: Hu(6/4) 5.5NW :: Elf(6/5) 5.75NW :: Orc(8/2) 6NW :: DE(4/6) 6.5NW :: GN(5/5) 5.25NW


now for my "bug"
----------------
Building In Progress have less then 55!!!!!
so this what the f**king "bug"!!!

you can also add to angel this:
------------------------------
if (Thieves+Wizards)*4 > "Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth"
{

*here you can calc the building in progress*

}


who to calc your own nw:
-------------------------
1*peasants + 1.5*soldires + offnw*offunit + defnw*defunit + elnw*eliteunit + 0.001*gold + 55*land (full)+ 0.6*horses + Thieves*4 + Wizards*4 + Science/100

*note - if you have Building In Progress then you need to do this calc:

1*peasants + 1.5*soldires + offnw*offunit + defnw*defunit + elnw*eliteunit + 0.001*gold + 0.6*horses + Thieves*4 + Wizards*4 + Science/100
+ 40*land + "Building_In_Progress"*Building_In_Progress_NW

Last edited by Bijo, 23-Jul-2008 at 21:51.
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(23-Jul-2008 at 22:35)
Re: i was wrong

changes on one acre:
before raze NW: 140,747gc
after raze NW: 140,706gc
Construction NW: 140,721gc
--------
lost 41gc (-41)
gained back 15gc (+15)
over all lost 26 (55-41+15=29)
--------
55-41=14+15=29+26=55
--------

so to sum things up buildings in Construction = 29gc

---------------

Unbuilt Land = 40gc
buildings in Construction = 29gc
full built Land = 55gc

Last edited by Bijo, 23-Jul-2008 at 22:37.
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(24-Jul-2008 at 01:02)
hops sorry i forgot to calc the money loss :S

hops sorry i forgot to calc the money loss :S
(plz ignore my last post)

raze cost me 557 so it be 1 nw loss also becouse:
557/1000=0.557 = round (0.557)=1gc

so its will be

lost 40gc (-40)
gained back 15gc (+15)
--------
55-40=15+15=30+25=55

Unbuilt Land = 15gc
Built Acres = 40gc
buildings in Construction = 30gc
full built Land = 55gc

(i had free cradits so only the raze part counts)

Last edited by Bijo, 24-Jul-2008 at 01:03.
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(24-Jul-2008 at 23:32)
Still A Gape!!!!

Off_NW: 4 (Human: 6)
Def_NW: 5 (DarkElf: 4.8)

Human Elite_NW: 5.5
Elf Elite_NW: 5.75
Dward Elite_NW: 7
Orc Elite_NW: 6.75
Gnome Elite_NW: 5.25
DarkElf Elite_NW: 6.5

NW_Formula = Peasants*1 + Soldires*1.5 + OffSpec*Off_NW + DefSpec*Def_NW + Elite*Elite_NW
+ Money*0.001 + War_Horses*0.6 + Thieves*4 + Wizards*4 + Science*0.01 + + Unbuilt*15 + Built*55 + InProgress*30

Real NW: 163,857gc (this is the value in game)
Calc NW: 163,045gc (this is the value i calc using this formula)

i still dont know why there is a 812gc gape between those two NW :S

Last edited by Bijo, 24-Jul-2008 at 23:33.
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(25-Jul-2008 at 00:46)
No More Gape! This Is The Fainal Formula!!!

NO MORE GAPE! THIS IS THE FAINAL FORMULA!!!

Off_NW: 4 (Human: 6)
Def_NW: 5 (DarkElf: 4.8)

Human Elite_NW: 5.5
Elf Elite_NW: 5.75
Dward Elite_NW: 7
Orc Elite_NW: 6.75
Gnome Elite_NW: 5.25
DarkElf Elite_NW: 6.5

NW_Formula = Peasants*1 + Soldires*1.5 + OffSpec*Off_NW + DefSpec*Def_NW + Elite*Elite_NW + Money/1000 + War_Horses*0.6 + Thieves*4 + Wizards*4 + Science/92 + Unbuilt*15 + Built*55 + InProgress*30

Real NW: 163,857gc (this is the value in game)
Calc NW: 163,860gc (this is the value i calc using this formula)

no gape

working 100%
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(10-Aug-2008 at 16:31)
Wait just a second there you are forgetting prisoners of war. Also just by eyeballing it I would say they lowered the amount of networth one gets from an unbuilt unit of land. From what I see it looks closer to 10 networth per each unbuilt acre of land. I know that sounds weird but I call it like I see it.
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(13-Aug-2008 at 13:20)
Re: [WoL #39] Networth Values

Originally Posted by Mrlittlemansexy: View Post
Wait just a second there you are forgetting prisoners of war. Also just by eyeballing it I would say they lowered the amount of networth one gets from an unbuilt unit of land. From what I see it looks closer to 10 networth per each unbuilt acre of land. I know that sounds weird but I call it like I see it.
you can see it anyway you want but the nw formula is the final one
i checked all the values and release alot b4 eoa 39
so this is the final formula for age 39 and its working 100%
for age 40 the only change they didis for DE elites but the nw value is the same
so its the same formula as well
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