[Markalon]

Here I am, in a 2.5 mil NW kingdom. Unfortunately, we got bumped from BF into WoL, but that's okay.

Now comes along a province that grabs me for 159 acres. He happens to be from the 2nd most powerful kd on WoL. Almost 3X our NW. So what do I do? I retal. He hit me, I retal'd back for about 250 acres.

Well, as you can imagine, now a LOT of provinces in their kd are retaling against me, all because I retal'd fair and square against somebody that attacked me.

It seems to me, that he should fight his own battles. If he picks on a province that can retal, that is his problem. I guess honor and fair play don't play a part in this game anymore. If it ever had in the first place.

Are there any players/kd's out there that play with honor?

[AznDude]

well that has happened to me, i retal for a province in my kd, and then they get 2 provs from that kd to retal on me... so i just made a truce wit the original province i hit, and we just left each other alone, so i suggest you do the same.

[Markalon]

lol... yeah, the problem is that they have about 8 provinces attacking me...lol... And I was only retaling for myself, nobody else. It should have stayed between him and I. Oh well.

[Tsachi]

Quote:

(Originally posted by Markalon)

lol... yeah, the problem is that they have about 8 provinces attacking me...lol... And I was only retaling for myself, nobody else. It should have stayed between him and I. Oh well.

should is a nice word, but they are retaling you 8 times because they want to teach you to never retal a super kingdom.

[Aenarion]

Well i don't se the problem?

Utopia is a team game... So to bad for u if you get attacked from a province (ur size) from a better kd than yours. Don't you retal if a province in your kd gets attacked? If not then you are not a very good team player in utopia.

[D o m i]

i really have no idea...our KD plays for honor...

[stoffi]

Lol, n00b kds don't get to retal. We do the same thing

[koma]

*waaaah mommmmmy they're mean!!* Stop whining -_-

[Ron Coxx]

that's how big kd work i guess ....

[Xtactic]

Well, those last posts sure answer your question: it died when arrogant bastards decided to gang up on so called superKDs, using any means (yes, cheating and dishnonourable too) to get to the top and make sure they stay there.

Until rules change, just deal with it or delete.

[hyperkill]

I have tried to play with honor (not FOR honor). But unfortunately, I just quit the game because my "kingdom mates" sucked all the fun out of it with their lack of honor and respect.

[greatarn]

I think you over simplify.

I played in a SK once. This is what happens.

You log on. You look at the today's page to see who has hit into your KD. (You do not look to see if this is a retal or not - you dont care)

You find someone. You know their army is out. You CB them. You can hit them. They are in a smaller KD. So you grab them.

It is not a question of punishing someone who hit into your SK. Its just an easy way to grab acres.

[DaFoursh]

Go grab someone else next time.

[Chillin]

yeah exactly...im in a barely average kd, and if you attack my KD....there is a good chance someone will retal you...it dosent matter if you were retalling a hit that my kd did prevuiously...that dosent matter...so what i suggest you do is retal for yourself again.....


ohhh, but wait, all thoose retals they did scarred you into not wanting to hit their kd again????

Well then their plan worked....

that simple...thats the whole point of retals

[keno px]

lots of top kingdoms cant handle admitting someones had the best of them

[Heracles]

Quote:

(Originally posted by Markalon)
Are there any players/kd's out there that play with honor?

Yes there are kingdoms that play fair.
They NEVER become a superkingdom.
All superkingdoms are build up with traders and multis.

They don't care about fair play, their singleminded simple minds only can see the world-top-rankinglists and when they are not on a hot spot, they cheat more to get there.

They use fakewars, account-trading, multi-accounts, the fakewarexploit (Hitting someone you are not in war with, while being in 'war' with some friendly kingdom).
They have alliances to help them out when they loose a war.
They use it all.
And don't expect one of them to 'play fair'.
'play fair' just has a completely diffent meaning for them than it has for you and me.

I was disappointed too by these people. The sad truth is that just how it in in BF.

So my advise to you: When you happen upon such a lowhearted coward, just let it be and take your losses.
Try to play for the fun of it in your own kingdom.
NEVER look at the world-top-listings. They don't deserve the attention they get now.
And of course: ENJOY!

Regards,
Heracles

[Ancient Karron]

Well what Heracles said has happened me 3 times in the last 2 days.

Just today we are in a double-hostile in comes a guy that is in a fake-war and hit me for around 150 acres.
His kingdom is a bit larger than mine, but I can´t retal him because then my kingdom would suffer even more since we have to get out of 1 hostile and into war with the other.

But just he wait bad stuff will bite his A.s when our war is finished and then I really will focus on him until our next hostile! (May he forever be damned into the.....)

So to answer your question there are a few still playing with honor but we are not as many as those playing without honor!

[Ainumahtar]

fair play?
kid, all superkingdoms and allinace kingdoms and provinces piss on fair play.

simple and only reason for it, fair play compromises efficience.

[ineser]

That's what happen to me, some grab around 150 acres but he got retal'd back by one of my kd mate..I cant retal back coz I got only 3k off specs.
There's no more fair play in utopia

[ZRG]

there's a difference between being GBed for retalling and just being weak...