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Posts: 15/67
(01-Jul-2004 at 00:31)
I messed around with what Ice Pick said, and found that the difference is 10%. That extra 10% defense I was talking about is taken away when you set it to War mode. So what it says in War mode is what you really have.
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(18-Aug-2004 at 12:22)
Offense Points is wrong. Was testing a oop strat... ooped with 7,807 elites and 325 War horses. Offense Points should be 31,723 raw... but prophet shows 47,012. I don't have barracks or any war sci..
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(20-Aug-2004 at 16:33)
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(Originally posted by Mythmaker)

Offense Points is wrong. Was testing a oop strat... ooped with 7,807 elites and 325 War horses. Offense Points should be 31,723 raw... but prophet shows 47,012. I don't have barracks or any war sci..
This is correct I only show raw offense, and I believe that horses are not taken into account. When I was adding this feature I noticed this was how Utopia displayed the results.

In short Utopia reports Off Specs and Elites combined offense.

You can use Angel Military Calc to see the same results.

One factor I am unsure of is Warrior personality. Does Off Points include the extra pt from elites in battle? Something to look out for if anyone notices.

-justin
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(21-Aug-2004 at 17:28)
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(Originally posted by swetty)

This is correct I only show raw offense, and I believe that horses are not taken into account. When I was adding this feature I noticed this was how Utopia displayed the results.

In short Utopia reports Off Specs and Elites combined offense.

You can use Angel Military Calc to see the same results.

One factor I am unsure of is Warrior personality. Does Off Points include the extra pt from elites in battle? Something to look out for if anyone notices.
?? I don't get you...

I'm a Halfling Freak...

7,807 elites*4 = 31,228 Offense Points RAW

Prophet shows 47,012 Offense in the throne page.

Where did the extra 15,784 Offense come from?
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(22-Aug-2004 at 22:29)
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(Originally posted by Mythmaker)

?? I don't get you...

I'm a Halfling Freak...

7,807 elites*4 = 31,228 Offense Points RAW

Prophet shows 47,012 Offense in the throne page.

Where did the extra 15,784 Offense come from?
I'll double check the calculations... it's possible I am messing up on the off value for halfer.

-justin
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(09-Sep-2004 at 11:17)
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I'll double check the calculations... it's possible I am messing up on the off value for halfer.

Yeah.. you did. Halfling elites are 4/4, not 6/4
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(26-Sep-2004 at 04:55)
teeth Age 26

The -30% military cost that elves had in age 25 are still include in the military. O/D Specs are 280 should be 400
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(26-Sep-2004 at 04:59)
Also theives should be 600
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(26-Sep-2004 at 09:01)
Ah yeah, took it out of the elite formula, but forgot it in the specs formula. Fixed in next release.

-justin
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(26-Sep-2004 at 22:06)
Avians still have +10% military costs thx
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(28-Sep-2004 at 06:18)
Avians have 660gc thieves and the rest of their military is fine.
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(28-Sep-2004 at 07:06)
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Avians have 660gc thieves and the rest of their military is fine.
Thanks Sigma, my personal QA. Totally spaced that fix.

-justin
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(28-Sep-2004 at 12:28)
elf do not have the minus military cost..so thier troops should be at 400 gc
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(28-Sep-2004 at 18:59)
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elf do not have the minus military cost..so thier troops should be at 400 gc
This should have been fixed in 2.26.07b release... however I see that thieves are still reduced in cost. (I'll get that up with spell book fix.)

-justin
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(28-Sep-2004 at 20:39)
"Avians still have +10% military costs thx"

Avians do NOT have +10% military *cost*

They have +10% military LOSSES

the cost for thieves is wrong in prophet - it's showing 660 gc and should be 600. I double checked my BF prov - still 600 gc there
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(28-Sep-2004 at 23:43)
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"Avians still have +10% military costs thx"

Avians do NOT have +10% military *cost*

They have +10% military LOSSES

the cost for thieves is wrong in prophet - it's showing 660 gc and should be 600. I double checked my BF prov - still 600 gc there
Yeah their is an issue with thieves for both elves and avian... looking to get it fixed.

-justin
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(02-Jan-2005 at 00:26)
Armories increase the training costs. Have 20% armories, but costs 560gc to train specs, 1800gc for elites, this is as a Human Merchant Monarch. The above prices are approximate, but still high for the 350gc base prices.
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(02-Jan-2005 at 02:25)
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Armories increase the training costs. Have 20% armories, but costs 560gc to train specs, 1800gc for elites, this is as a Human Merchant Monarch. The above prices are approximate, but still high for the 350gc base prices.
Yup. Thanks for reporting.

-justin
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(02-Jan-2005 at 03:51)
Orc draft costs are off, should be -50%. Will be fixed in 2.27.03b.

-justin
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(02-Jan-2005 at 16:24)
Looks like human elite still have 4/5. should be 4/6
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