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(25-Feb-2012 at 08:54)


Israelis object to Palestinians having electricity.

Israel nixes solar energy for Palestinians

"AL-THALA, West Bank (AP) - Electricity from solar panels and wind turbines has revolutionized life in rural Palestinian herding communities: Machines, instead of hands, churn goat milk into butter, refrigerators store food that used to spoil and children no longer have to hurry to get their homework done before dark.

But the German-funded project, initiated by Israeli volunteers, is now in danger. Israeli authorities are threatening to demolish the installations in six of the 16 remote West Bank communities being illuminated by alternative energy, arguing the panels and turbines were installed without permits."

"Elad Orian, a physicist at Comet-ME, said the group didn't ask for permits, feeling it would have been futile because Israel considers the communities illegal."

"... the U.N. said 70 percent of Area C is off limits to Palestinian construction, having been allocated to settlements or the military, and that development in the remainder is heavily restricted.

"In reality, it is almost impossible for Palestinians to obtain building permits," the report concluded.

In contrast, critics note that Israel has allowed rapid settlement development in Area C. That includes some 100 unauthorized outposts set up since the late 1990s. Instead of tearing them down, the government has linked outposts to the electricity grid, provided roads and infrastructure and is trying to legalize some retroactively."

In simple terms, Palestinian communities that Israel (meaning the government, not the volunteers who helped instal the panels and turbines) says are illegal (as though the land is Israel's...) are denied electricity, and when they obtain their own from solar power or wind, Israel demolishes them. But when Israeli communities spring up without permission, Israel provides power, and roads, and infrastructure, and even retroactively legalises them. Then the Israel government and its extremist supporters whine that the whole world condemns them...


How can denying electricity to the victims of an oppressive and illegal occupation be justified?

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." But let it be considered that he did not mean a real and generous love of our country, but that pretended patriotism which so many, in all ages and countries, have made a cloak of self- interest.
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(27-Feb-2012 at 21:12)


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How can denying electricity to the victims of an oppressive and illegal occupation be justified?
It can't be justified, so it is not referred to in those terms by the organizations that matter, nor by the majority of media that will print the story, nor by the reports of the UN.

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.”
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(01-Mar-2012 at 11:32)


I think the UN would be more active, if the USA didn't have a silly political system that allows foreign powers to influence the US politics just by throwing money at it.

If this were, for example, Russia preventing Georgian villages from having electricity there would be a whole load of noise about it.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." But let it be considered that he did not mean a real and generous love of our country, but that pretended patriotism which so many, in all ages and countries, have made a cloak of self- interest.
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(01-Mar-2012 at 22:45)


Get help.

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(05-Mar-2012 at 11:57)


Re: Israelis object to Palestinians having electricity.

Originally Posted by Mars II: View Post
Some people have something to say. Mars just has to say something...

Your failure to actually address anything on the topic prove filcher totally correct when he said "It can't be justified". If there were some way to justify depriving villages, under an illegal occupation, of electricity I know you would be clutching at those straws. Since you can't, it must be unjustifiable.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." But let it be considered that he did not mean a real and generous love of our country, but that pretended patriotism which so many, in all ages and countries, have made a cloak of self- interest.
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