Posts: 59/173
(04-Nov-2004 at 18:21) |
ok.. dont get me wrong i have nothing against gays or fags or anything and i understand theyre people and have rights but theres somethign you all need to know:
what the point of marriying gays... in real life people marry in order to make a family (produce children) gays and lesbians cannot do that... so their marriage is pointless IF you are saying that guays are supposed to be allowed to have children (by adoption for exemple) then you must be f*cking out of ure minds... Would YOU want to be born in a family where your parentsa re gay? i wouldn't i mean.. its not good for the children they will suffer great psychological problems and most probably turn gay themselves (it has been proven that environment does lead to homosexuality) just like diabetics cant marry to prevent spreading this genetically transmitted disease further.. so should gays be banned from marrying and adopting and corrupting children... whats the big deal.. not everyone was born to be astronaut they can have all the sex they want but when it comes to hurting and corrupting others (especially if its small innocent children or whole societies) When hell is full.. the mods will walk the earth
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okay you say you have nothing against gays... call them homosexuals then... not gays or fags
and the point in marriage is not having children... the point in marriage is different for different people and the homosexuals want to marry to show their love for eachother just like heterosexuals so let them, give them the opportunity to do so, if they don't want to they don't have to... but they should have the possibility I find everyone to be against homosexuals to be very ignorant... and I can be called ignorant for saying this... but homosexualty is not a disease and you shouldn't be worried if a homo couple gets kids they wind up to be homosexuals... cus there is nothing wrong with being homosexual... they are people with feelings too and yes I find homo couples should be able to adopt, cus I believe they give more love then any parents that divorce just so you know: my parents are divorced and I love them very much but I do believe that divorce isn't right |
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(04-Nov-2004 at 19:17) ![]() |
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IF you are saying that guays are supposed to be allowed to have children (by adoption for exemple) then you must be f*cking out of ure minds... Would YOU want to be born in a family where your parentsa re gay? i wouldn't i mean.. its not good for the children they will suffer great psychological problems and most probably turn gay themselves (it has been proven that environment does lead to homosexuality) ![]() |
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(Originally posted by zeroc00l) in real life people marry in order to make a family (produce children) gays and lesbians cannot do that...
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(Originally posted by zeroc00l) Would YOU want to be born in a family where your parentsa re gay?
Gay parents are more likely to make someone think they don't have to marry someone of the opposite sex. Yes, sure. I don't see that as a problem. In today's world where people have bigoted views like yours, I can imagine it would indeed be tough on a child to have gay parents. Much as it could have been/be tough to have parents of different races in some places/times.
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(Originally posted by zeroc00l) just like diabetics cant marry to prevent spreading this genetically transmitted disease further..
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Posts: 61/173
(04-Nov-2004 at 20:12) |
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Gay parents are more likely to make someone think they don't have to marry someone of the opposite sex. Yes, sure. I don't see that as a problem. When hell is full.. the mods will walk the earth
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(04-Nov-2004 at 20:47) ![]() |
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this is bad enough already... good.. now imagine everyone is thinking that way... congratz.. u just caused the extinction of the human race.. Last edited by cdndude83, 04-Nov-2004 at 20:48. |
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IF you are saying that guays are supposed to be allowed to have children (by adoption for exemple) then you must be f*cking out of ure minds... Would YOU want to be born in a family where your parentsa re gay? i wouldn't i mean.. its not good for the children they will suffer great psychological problems and most probably turn gay themselves (it has been proven that environment does lead to homosexuality) There's an environment outside the home as well. Please stop trying to justify bigotry. Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject "I just figured it was some nasty form of chance - y'know, God rolled a six and here we are" Do YOU #tft? |
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(04-Nov-2004 at 22:35) |
If the republicans can get you to go out and beat up all the fags you might forget that you are poor, have no education, no future, and are warring for oil. It is horrible that in "the land of the free" not only are we not teaching tolerance but we encourage bigotry and bias. The Vice President's own daughter is a lesbian and yet he won't stand up for her rights. Why would anybody "choose" to be subjected to what society says here in America. When it comes to American thinking on homosexuality I am embarrassed to be an American. We need more love not more hate.
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(04-Nov-2004 at 23:20) ![]() |
I'm tired of the "psychological problems" arguement. What about heterosexual marriages where the guy gets drunk and comes home to beat the hell out of his wife? You can't always choose the circumstances of a childs upbringing. Just suck it up and deal with the fact that gays have every right to have children and raise them lovingly.
I'd much rather have two gay parents who raise me with good moral values like kindness, honesty, responsiblity and tolerance rather than the wife beating scenario. p.s. Utah sucks, I feel like I'm the only person here to vote against the gay marriage ban they had. (\ /) ( . .) c('')('') Last edited by MAPS, 04-Nov-2004 at 23:21. |
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Today on my local newspaper, I read an interesting quote by Jack Layton (leader of the NDP, canadian political party that would be a bit further left than the Liberals). He said that in Canada, we never put issues concerning human rights on a referendum because then minority goups would be pushed aside, and their rights ignored.
Comments? "Why should I have to work for everything?! It's like saying I don't deserve it!" - Calvin. |
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(05-Nov-2004 at 05:28) ![]() |
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Today on my local newspaper, I read an interesting quote by Jack Layton (leader of the NDP, canadian political party that would be a bit further left than the Liberals). He said that in Canada, we never put issues concerning human rights on a referendum because then minority goups would be pushed aside, and their rights ignored. Comments? ![]() |
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Posts: 256/266 (05-Nov-2004 at 05:30) |
I see time and time again the old arguement that gays should be able to get married/have kids because straight people who bash their kids are allowed to get married/have kids.
If you want to argue this then you have to accept that in almost 100% of these situations the children suffer whether mentally or physically, and if discovered by relevant authorities most of these children are taken away from their parents. So using the straight bashed child example is wearing incredibly thin. |
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(05-Nov-2004 at 05:40) ![]() |
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I see time and time again the old arguement that gays should be able to get married/have kids because straight people who bash their kids are allowed to get married/have kids. If you want to argue this then you have to accept that in almost 100% of these situations the children suffer whether mentally or physically, and if discovered by relevant authorities most of these children are taken away from their parents. So using the straight bashed child example is wearing incredibly thin. 1) White supremacist (or any sort of extremist) parents 2) Divorced parents 3) Extremely poor parents 4) Being raised in an orphanage/foster home 5) Straight parents Kind of tough to put a quantitative value on such things, isn't it? Nice to know you're willing to try it, though. ![]() Last edited by prolix, 05-Nov-2004 at 05:49. |
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Posts: 259/266 (05-Nov-2004 at 06:07) |
Which has a greater negative impact on a child, having gay parents or:
1) Gay White supremacist (or any sort of extremist) parents 2) Gay Divorced parents 3) Extremely poor Gay parents 4) Being raised in a Gay orphanage/foster home 5) Straight parents Two wrongs dont make a right! |
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Posts: 379/387
(05-Nov-2004 at 07:06) |
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To discount Marduk: In Oregon Measure 36 passed 56 to 43 last I checked, yet Kerry won Oregon by 57 to 41. I think its a good thing till we get an all out ban on it in the constitution. Gays want rights for hospital visits, pensions, and the like, give it to them. I dont care about the life style so much, just dont call it Marriage. Signature suspended by Valek for violating the forum's rules. Size does matter...too big. Your hardly the first person to say that to me. First guy true but hardly the first ![]() |
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Posts: 380/387
(05-Nov-2004 at 07:22) |
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ok.. dont get me wrong i have nothing against gays or fags or anything and i understand theyre people and have rights but theres somethign you all need to know:
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what the point of marriying gays... in real life people marry in order to make a family (produce children) gays and lesbians cannot do that... so their marriage is pointless
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IF you are saying that guays are supposed to be allowed to have children (by adoption for exemple) then you must be f*cking out of ure minds... Would YOU want to be born in a family where your parentsa re gay? i wouldn't i mean.. its not good for the children they will suffer great psychological problems and most probably turn gay themselves (it has been proven that environment does lead to homosexuality)
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just like diabetics cant marry to prevent spreading this genetically transmitted disease further.. so should gays be banned from marrying and adopting and corrupting children... whats the big deal.. not everyone was born to be astronaut
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they can have all the sex they want but when it comes to hurting and corrupting others (especially if its small innocent children or whole societies)
A few points here to add onto the end. Pedophilia is a predominatly heterosexual trait. Ie: Most Pedophiles, "both boy and girl lovers," are heterosexual. Perhaps we should make heterosexuality illegal as it can lead to pedophilia, "which is most certainly far more detrimental to children than homosexuality."? Second, it is hard to believe that whole disclaimer you have about having no problem with homosexuals, considering you just referred to them as a coruption. Finally, learn to actually research the rediculous garbage you spout. Diabetics unable to marry indeed! Even people with aids can marry, though i think there are laws in some states concerning child birth for those with such detrimental diseases. Signature suspended by Valek for violating the forum's rules. Size does matter...too big. Your hardly the first person to say that to me. First guy true but hardly the first ![]() Last edited by puzzle, 05-Nov-2004 at 07:28. |
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Posts: 260/266 (05-Nov-2004 at 10:14) |
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A few points here to add onto the end. Pedophilia is a predominatly heterosexual trait. Ie: Most Pedophiles, "both boy and girl lovers," are heterosexual. Perhaps we should make heterosexuality illegal as it can lead to pedophilia, "which is most certainly far more detrimental to children than homosexuality."?
Where on earth did you get this statistic.... And by the way... you should check the % of straight people who commit paedophilia and check it against the % of gays who are also paedophiles. Unless you think that "Straight" men molest little boys! Hardly a possibility as the act in itself is a HOMO-sexual act. When people have a problem with their sexual identity it stands to reason that they will be more liberal in the use of it.... "Straight people" Know what to do with their Bits. And Paedophiles are put in jail and usually killed by other prisoners if discovered. Funny how you people pick such disgraceful portions of society to compare yourselves to, when you want something. Look paedophiles can do it so why cant we!!.... really not a good way of getting your point across. You fail to realise that the vast Majority of people look between their legs and know what its for and what its capable of..... And when they goto the toilet they know that that bit is where things come out.... not go in! |
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What a load of crack!! Where on earth did you get this statistic.... And by the way... you should check the % of straight people who commit paedophilia and check it against the % of gays who are also paedophiles.
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In all jurisdictions (except the ACT) girls were approximately three times more likely than boys to be the subject of a substantiation of sexual abuse.
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Posts: 261/266 (05-Nov-2004 at 10:34) |
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In contrast, a relatively low percentage of the children resided in two-parent intact families.
Firstly, I double-read the page and no-where does it say that straight people are more likely to commit paedophilia, in fact, if you look at the previous Quote that comes from your source it actually says that children in straight married relationships are a disproportionately low % of the children who are abused... Now.. lets try to get those FACTS right shall we! |
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