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(28-Oct-2006 at 15:29)
Rounding error

Currenctly there is a rounding error in angel. Basically it rounds all numbers that the game doesnt. Can this please be fixed?
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(28-Oct-2006 at 16:00)


can you post an example of which particular number is rounded.
Although, i dont think it will affect that much of the game play, unless it is in Military Advisor.
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(31-Oct-2006 at 15:38)


I can't think of any place angel rounds that utopia doesn't

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(04-Nov-2006 at 13:39)
Angel rounds the millitary effeciency. copy your throne page without having cast agression. Mark the soldier tab in the mill calc. set prisoners to 0 and generals to 1. You will then get a different number than what is on the throne page most of the time. Highly anoying as sometimes it can be quite big differences meaning you either have to calc by hand or oversend loads to not bounce.
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(11-Nov-2006 at 08:47)


lightbulb Re: Rounding error

Please refer to the following guides:

- Guide to the Attack Calculator
- Understanding Stances in Utopia Angel

Brother Green, Utopia Angel creator.
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(13-Nov-2006 at 00:09)
I have read them... Please catch up with me on irc some time. Anyways. The game do not round and angel do. Just calc with your throne page offence and you will see this is easily verifiable. Why not fix it?
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(14-Nov-2006 at 07:13)


question Re: Rounding error

I will be happy to fix it, but first I need to understand the problem. Can you give an actual example with numbers?

Brother Green, Utopia Angel creator.
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(14-Nov-2006 at 11:05)
On genesis now my throne page shows
Harpies 415
Drakes 2828
Soldiers 144
War Horses 0
Prisoners 0
Off. Points 18,149
copying this into angel yields

ME+Stance (no spells): 94.6% off.
Soldiers: 144
Harpies: 415 (1,963 offense)
Drakes: 2,828 (16,052 offense / 10,701 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Modified Offense: 18,151 (1.13 per Acre)

Admitedly here it is only 2 points off yielding 94.6% off ME instead of 18149/(144+2828*6+415*5)=0,94590087038098712670037004221 608 or probably more accurate 94.59%. Admittedly this wasnt a bit amount off it can however be significant for larger numbers when it goes off up to 0.049%. As angel do the same with defence the numbers can be up to 1% off.

There is also the problem that angel counts prisoners as modified offence on a cb even if you have asked it not to do it(since it isnt). This ofc is kinda a non-issue since they arent counted as throne page offence in the first place. You do however have to calc it by hand. Dont you just love how i manage to post multiple issues in each thread?
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(18-Nov-2006 at 13:29)


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Thanks for your report, please let me know if this is resolved in the next release.

Brother Green, Utopia Angel creator.
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(24-Nov-2006 at 15:14)
Heh. What you did was set the ME to be 2 digits after the dot if i am not mistaken. This will certanly make angel more accurate which is good. ofc this doesnt change the fact that there are no limit to roungings in the game(afaik). Thanks anyways.
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(02-Dec-2006 at 06:12)


smile Re: 1.79b3 ME fields need higher precision

Not accurate. The CB Formatter rounds only for display purposes. The SoM Formatter and Military Calculator do round to 2 digits after the dot, instead of only 1 digit. This is inevitable due to storage restrictions. It still improves the situation greatly, and any discrepancies should be negligible.

Brother Green, Utopia Angel creator.
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(27-Feb-2007 at 00:10)
you still need to oversend 1% or more to be certain. How much extra space does one extra decimal cost? making it more decimals like 4 or 5 would greatly improve gameplay. At big sizes you need to oversend quite a bit.
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